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A second Brexit referendum would be more toxic and divisive than the first | Phil McDuff

Remainers gleeful at Nigel Farage’s call for a second vote are foolish. Those who voted to leave the first time have been given no reason to change their minds

Say what you like about Nigel Farage, he shows a knack for pure politics that, unfortunately, the remain campaign never has. His latest double reverse ferret – coming out in favour of a second referendum, while insisting that it’s “the last thing he wanted” – has for some reason been welcomed by high profile remainers.

The mood seems to be that if “even” Farage agrees with their call for a second referendum on Brexit, that is a sign that they’re winning the argument. Nobody has seemingly considered the idea that if Farage is calling for it then it may not be a good idea. Of course he would love a second referendum because there hasn’t been enough Nigel Farage on the telly for Nigel’s liking lately. He is a shameless egotist who ran Ukip as a vehicle for self-promotion of his own brand. While winning the referendum should have been a grand victory, it has resulted in him being sidelined in favour of actual cabinet ministers. A new campaign would put him front and centre where he feels he is entitled to be. It’s a no-brainer.

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With Farage rattled and MPs flexing their muscles, the real Brexit battle is just beginning

This week MPs will again debate the withdrawal bill to take the UK out of the EU. Soft Brexiters are increasingly confident, while the most prominent Leaver is plunged in gloom

When Nigel Farage emerged from a meeting in Brussels with the EU’s chief Brexit negotiator Michel Barnier shortly after midday last Monday his increasingly gloomy mood had darkened further. “The message I got was that they will be happy to trade chocolate and cheese and wine freely with us but when it comes to services, forget it. It ain’t going to happen. I think we are going to have a very bad deal.”

In the early hours of 24 June, 2016, the former Ukip leader, who had, arguably, done more than anyone to deliver the Leave vote, toured TV stations, triumphantly hailing the UK’s “independence day”. In Farage’s view it was not only a defining moment for Britain. It was also one that would demonstrate to other EU member states with strong or emerging eurosceptic movements – he cited Denmark, Italy, Sweden and Austria – that there was another way. “The EU is failing, the EU is dying. I hope that we have knocked the first brick out of the wall,” he declared in the glow of victory.

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Letters to the Editor – Saturday 13th January 2018

Letters to the Editor – Saturday 13th January 2018

Today’s letters are about Leaders – or rather, the strange ‘affairs’ our current and past Leader have presented us with this week. The first letter is from our correspondent Septimus Octavius, chiming it with the article by Gerard Batten MEP in today’s edition:

Sir,

Why has Nigel openly countenanced the possibility of a second referendum on the UK’s membership of the EU?

For the first time I find myself profoundly disagreeing with something said by Nigel Farage.

Until now, Nigel has on the whole proved himself to be very sound indeed on all things EU related, so of all people, I thought that he might have read and understood Article 50 – but, on today’s news, it is clear that he has not.

Article 50 has been invoked, which means that on or before 29 March 2019 the UK will be released from the Treaties of the EU; this is what Article 50 dictates, and does so as a matter of EU law – there is nothing the UK or any person or institution within it can now do to stop the operation of Article 50.

Ex-MP, Sir Nick Clegg should have shut up long ago, but who would have thought we would ever see the day when he should praise and heartily agree with Nigel?

Time for Nigel to do the Trappist thing in this regard, methinks.

Respectfully, Septimus Octavius

On that issue – Leave, and another referendum – our correspondent Roger Arthur asks this question:

Sir,

Remainers often ask for a another vote on our EU membership, after claiming that referendum outcomes are advisory only.

In view of that, perhaps they could explain why they now want a third referendum.

Respectfully, Roger J. Arthur

The next letter reflects the issue surrounding the current Leader, Henry Bolton. It is from our contributor and correspondent Mike Kennedy:

Sir,

Bolton’s personal behaviour in his private life and the sensationalising by the MSM would count for nothing, and might even add some valuable publicity, if Bolton was doing his job properly.

He has already shown himself to be out of his depth as party leader and that is why he should be replaced. He tells us he has been busy, since elected, sorting out Party finances, improving internal communications and organisation and the website. All laudable, but these are things which he should direct and delegate to others while he gets on with the really important stuff. He has neglected his urgent and most significant role, that of keeping UKIP in the public eye, appearing in the media and vigorously critiquing Theresa May and the Government for their complete mismanagement of the Brexit negotiations and pointing out where the British people are being betrayed.

He has had a completely open goal with plenty to comment on and criticise almost every day throughout the abysmal capitulations, failures and incompetence as May has stumbled through Phase One of the Brexit negotiations. He has not said anything about the appalling outcome of Phase One, for example. This is his most important role, to keep UKIP visible to the voting public because many now think UKIP has either disappeared or given up; whenever UKIP is mentioned in public discussion it is usually to ask where they have gone.

UKIP is expected to be outspoken and controversial yet to talk a lot of common sense. This is what Bolton should be doing every day and marshalling his large cohort of spokespeople to do the same on all the other areas of public concern. He should be stirring things up in the political circles and not allowing the Government to get away with deceiving the public on any important issues.

He says his priority is to reorganise the Party in order to be able to fight forthcoming elections, meanwhile the membership has been shrinking and by the time he has done his reorganisation it will be too late because May will have done her worst virtually without serious criticism. The silence of UKIP and its associated political threat has allowed May to survive and continue her duplicitous capitulation to the EU. It is no good starting to campaign a few weeks before an election. The Party must be in the public eye continuously if it is to have any election success.

It is his incompetence rather than his personal life which shows why Bolton should go. Sadly UKIP again needs a new leader.

Respectfully, Mike Kennedy

Finally, on the question of a new leader, here is a proposal from our reader John W Beney:

Sir,
A brief but democratic proposal for Daily UKIP readers please.

Following the many letters and emails requiring Henry Bolton to resign or be dismissed as the Leader, hopefully the NEC will call time on Mr Bolton at the NEC meeting on 18 January 2018. [Ed:now officially to take place on Sunday Jan 21st 2018]

There have already been suggestions mooted of who should take over the role of Leader and several names mentioned but the last thing we need at this time is yet another expensive and time consuming Leadership election.

From the result of the last election, the correct appointment should be David Kurten who came third in this election. Anne-Marie who came second has departed to pastures new, so David is the obvious and, I would contend, the democratic choice. This principle being similar to the replacement of an MEP between elections.

Respectfully, John W Beney, UKIP Member from Eastbourne

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UKIP and a Second EU Referendum

UKIP and a Second EU Referendum

I was shocked and appalled, like most UKIPPERs, that Nigel Farage conceded that a second EU Referendum could be held. He made his comments on the Wright Stuff daytime TV show on January 11th 2018, and it caused such a backlash that he spent the rest of the day backtracking on what he had said.

 

What he actually said on the TV show was that, “Maybe, just maybe, we should have a second Referendum”. Later Nigel qualified that to explain that he does not want a second referendum but that it might happen anyway, and we need to be prepared.

 

He has been in this business a long time, he would have known how the media would seize on this statement. However he tries to qualify what he said, the damage is done.  The Remainers will now throw his statement back in the faces of every Leaver who appears in the media – “But even Nigel Farage said there should be a second referendum”!  Just like the idiotic ‘£350 million for the NHS’ on the side of the Vote Leave bus which is still thrown back at us, even though we never said it.

 

I don’t often agree with David Cameron but I did agree with what he said in his Chatham House speech just before the Referendum:

 

“It will be your decision whether to remain in the EU on the basis of the reforms we secure or whether we leave. Your decision, nobody else’s’: not politicians, not Parliament, not lobby groups, not mine. Just you, the British people will decide.

“And it will be the final decision. To those who suggest that a decision in the Referendum to leave will merely produce another stronger renegotiation and a second Referendum in which Britain could stay, I say, think again.

“The renegotiation is happening right now and the Referendum that follows will be a once in a generation choice, an in or out Referendum. When the British people speak their voice will be respected not ignored. If we vote to leave then we will leave, there will not be another renegotiation and another Referendum.”

 

Having been armed with David Cameron’s unequivocal position on the legitimacy of the Referendum we are now saddled with Nigel Farage’s equivocation.

 

Just as I predicted, the outcome of the Leave vote has been subjected to a relentless campaign by the Remainers and our political class to prevent the Leave decision being implemented. UKIP’s policy since the Referendum has been to make the Government uphold the result and see it implemented. To do that UKIP needs to be an electoral threat once again.

 

Just so that everyone knows: Nigel Farage did not discuss his suggestion of a second Referendum with anyone before making it: not the Leader, not the MEPs, or even the UKIP or EFDD press officers. He does not speak for UKIP. He was speaking entirely for himself.

 

UKIP’s task, now made that much more difficult, is to demand a complete and unencumbered exit from the EU, and for the historic vote of 26th June 2016 to be implemented.

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Referendum II is coming. Farage just can’t bear being a Brexit misfit | Marina Hyde

Nigel backed Steve Bannon, but that blew up. So he’s back for one last job, to settle this thing once and for all. And then perhaps do it again

“So maybe, just maybe,” declared Nigel Farage dramatically yesterday, “I’m reaching the point of thinking that we should have a second referendum on EU membership.” “We understand more than anything what [the Tories] plan to do,” added his Brexit backer Arron Banks, “unfortunately.”

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Steve Bell on Nigel Farage’s call for second Brexit vote – cartoon

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Farage wants a second referendum. Bring it on | Andrew Adonis

Remainers must now prepare themselves for the fight of their lives – and show that a fairer and more democratic Britain within the EU is possible

For all of his many faults, Nigel Farage has shown himself, in the course of his 20 years as a professional politician, to have some insight into the mood of the British public. It pains me to concede it but he has shown that instinct for populism again today by calling for a second referendum. Of course, Farage believes that a second vote will vindicate him and his hard Brexit comrades. He is asking not for a plebiscite so much as some sort of reckoning, with violent language to boot (he said: “I think that if we had a second referendum on EU membership we would kill it off for a generation”). But the underlying argument he makes is essentially correct – Brexit is not a done deal, the future is still up for grabs and the debate about Britain’s place in the world continues.

Related: Nigel Farage backs fresh Brexit referendum to 'kill off' issue

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